tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post2670506188618056937..comments2024-02-29T03:29:52.934-05:00Comments on A List Of Things Thrown Five Minutes Ago: Adamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02113168955236758821noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-53749364384369945942013-01-11T20:46:39.066-05:002013-01-11T20:46:39.066-05:00I would be okay with the ballot, with the followin...I would be okay with the ballot, with the following explanation: (1) Bonds was the best player of his generation and possibly of any generation. (2) Clemens was arguably the best pitcher of his generation and was better than the vast majority of pitchers who are already in the HOF. (3) Martinez is the greatest thing that ever happened to the City of Seattle and I love him and he is the awesomest anything ever of all ever FACT so shut your foul pie-holes, haters.isaac_spacemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-87979194630167868702013-01-11T11:54:16.364-05:002013-01-11T11:54:16.364-05:00This makes a lot of sense to me. Barry Bonds and ...This makes a lot of sense to me. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens sucked. I wish that [insert voter's team here] got to play a team comprised only of ten Clemenses and fifteen Bondses 162 times a year.isaac_spacemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-74684844572415382082013-01-11T11:50:30.438-05:002013-01-11T11:50:30.438-05:00Piazza is not just a suspected user. A legit repo...Piazza is not just a suspected user. A legit reporter says that Piazza admitted steroid use to him, and at least one former teammate confirmed.isaac_spacemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-23944783972043669212013-01-09T21:33:16.524-05:002013-01-09T21:33:16.524-05:00Most illogical ballot may be Tony Massarotti, Bost...<a href="http://bbwaa.com/13-hof-ballots/" rel="nofollow">Most illogical ballot</a> may be Tony Massarotti, Boston Globe: Bonds, Clemens, Martinez. How do you vote for Martinez and not Bagwell, Biggio, or Piazza?Adam B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-25771934293518432612013-01-09T20:26:54.494-05:002013-01-09T20:26:54.494-05:00You know who's getting screwed here? Alan Tram...You know who's getting screwed here? Alan Trammell, that's who. This should have been his year.J. Bowmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-70785580653942770422013-01-09T18:25:32.078-05:002013-01-09T18:25:32.078-05:00I should clarify that I don't think he's a...I should clarify that I don't think he's a first-ballot slam dunk. I think something is wrong if he doesn't get in eventually. He is arguably the best-hitting catcher of all time. But, yes, in my mind, the thing keeping him off first-ballot election would be his defense, which was below average at a position where defense is very important.Fred Appnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-16707972351044115262013-01-09T18:13:05.062-05:002013-01-09T18:13:05.062-05:00I get angry when I think of this. I need to go dis...I get angry when I think of this. I need to go distract myself.MidwestAndrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-9363951211473694672013-01-09T18:12:34.288-05:002013-01-09T18:12:34.288-05:00He could be a "suspected" user. He'...He could be a "suspected" user. He's a slam dunk to get in eventually, but first ballot (indulging the BBWA that this makes a difference)? What i was saying below is each individual vote may be defensible, but some not in conjunction with each other.David Bennerhttp://twitter.com/davidabennernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-80686020519902022022013-01-09T17:51:05.410-05:002013-01-09T17:51:05.410-05:00I'm continually mystified by this. I mean, O&#...I'm continually mystified by this. I mean, O'Neil was on the damn Vet Committee and couldn't get in.Joseph Finnhttp://profiles.google.com/josephfinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-85456301391262871442013-01-09T17:13:04.050-05:002013-01-09T17:13:04.050-05:00And yet Buck O'Neil remains uninducted. Justic...And yet Buck O'Neil remains uninducted. Justice, where art thou?MidwestAndrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-74736801786664438382013-01-09T15:45:29.005-05:002013-01-09T15:45:29.005-05:00Bum job on linkage - trying again: http://mlb.sbna...Bum job on linkage - trying again: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/1/9/3855698/hall-fame-2013-voting-results-nobody-elected-craig-biggio-steroidsAdam C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-63626341763585969362013-01-09T15:44:32.292-05:002013-01-09T15:44:32.292-05:00And in the following year, Randy Johnson, Pedro, a...And in the following year, Randy Johnson, Pedro, and Smoltz gain eligibility. As Rob Neyer noted (sorry, can't link from phone other than long form: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2013/1/9/3855698/hall-fame-2013-voting-results-nobody-elected-craig-biggio-steroids) this was the best chance some of these guys on this year's ballot will have for a long while.Adam C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-1145159449365123352013-01-09T15:29:28.164-05:002013-01-09T15:29:28.164-05:00Jinx!Jinx!Adam C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-58905151482862790282013-01-09T15:26:54.512-05:002013-01-09T15:26:54.512-05:00Damn straight, Adam.Damn straight, Adam.Joseph Finnhttp://profiles.google.com/josephfinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-88981309732235876192013-01-09T15:25:56.241-05:002013-01-09T15:25:56.241-05:00That Tim Raines number is simply mind-boggling and...That Tim Raines number is simply mind-boggling and probably resulting from the folks who consider some cocaine use in the 1980's as bad as cheating.<br /><br />Kenny Lofton deserved better,<br /><br />So! Next year! Bagwell, Biggio, Piazza, Raines, Thomas, Maddux are my slam-dunks, with Mussina and Glavine definitely getting some consideratio. So, 8 at the most and the 10 name limit not being a problem.Joseph Finnhttp://profiles.google.com/josephfinnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-40852978500168840842013-01-09T15:25:36.940-05:002013-01-09T15:25:36.940-05:00I think it's garbage, but I feel the worst for...I think it's garbage, but I feel the worst for Kenny Lofton, who deserved at least some fair consideration but had the misfortune to become eligible in what too many writers decided was a protest year and now is just SOL.Adam C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-20169622959089435052013-01-09T15:24:30.497-05:002013-01-09T15:24:30.497-05:00How is Piazza not a slam dunk -- does defense sudd...How is Piazza not a slam dunk -- does defense suddenly matter as a negative?Adam B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-42667851433173021072013-01-09T15:11:08.720-05:002013-01-09T15:11:08.720-05:00I would agree that none of the folks are slam dunk...I would agree that none of the folks are slam dunks, so just from that perspective, I'm not too outraged about guys like Bagwell and Piazza missing. However, if the voters left them off their lists not because of their body of work, but because there are SUSPICIONS of steroid use (and by "suspicions," I mean a lot of talk, with no evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, other than that they have big muscles), then I think they've done everyone a great disservice. Just because steroid use was pervasive doesn't mean that everyone should suddenly be assumed guilty until proven innocent.Fred Appnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3953654.post-88036876591703560562013-01-09T14:42:36.148-05:002013-01-09T14:42:36.148-05:00OK, none of the top vote-getters are absolute slam...OK, none of the top vote-getters are absolute slam dunks, and the case against Clemens and Bonds is convincing to the people to whom it is convincing. The interesting question then becomes how in the hell Jack Morris has more votes than Curt Schilling.David Bennerhttp://twitter.com/davidabennernoreply@blogger.com