So let's right this wrong and break ground on the Fake Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Eligibility is extended, and restricted, to anybody who (a) makes or has made music professionally; (b) is fictional; and (c) is worthy of induction in a Fake Hall of Fame. In other words, no Hannah Montana, but unlike the RRHOF, we'll accept country, rap, disco, whatever.
Before we can vote on inductions, though, we need a comprehensive list of nominees. I'll start with a few possibilities; you add others that you believe warrant consideration. Once we get a list going, we may ask people to state their cases. To start us off:
- Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem
- Eddie and the Cruisers
- The Late Greats
- Stillwater
- Emmett Otter's Jug Band
- Don Music
- Music Producer Bruce Dickinson
The Monkees? I kid! I kid!
ReplyDeleteMy nomination goes to Bob Roberts.
Big Fun (or were they too much of a one-hit wonder?)
ReplyDeleteWyld Stallyns (their ability to time travel could appeal to different voting blocs from across historical eras)
Marty McFly (though the guy in the link below might argue with the notion that he invented rock 'n' roll)
http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/01/14/marty-mcfly-did-not-invent-rock-n-roll-bttf-week/
<span><span>Nickelback is fictional, right? I can't image anyone could honestly make that hunger-dunger-dang scumbag rock and believe that it's good in earnest.</span></span>
ReplyDeleteThe One-ders?
ReplyDeleteSex Bob-omb? (Not commenting on quality here.)
ReplyDeleteDrive Shaft? (Ditto!)
How about some of the stars of "Nashville"? Haven Hamilton (a legend in his own mind, at least) or Barbara Jean? Of course, I'm a bit biased here, because I think Nashville is the greatest movie ever made.
ReplyDelete"Drive Shaft? More like Suck Shaft."
ReplyDeleteSpinal Tap!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI kind of think the Monkees might count. Hard call.
ReplyDelete4-evah! (no hits, but they were in the newspaper a lot)
ReplyDeleteYou've already listed three I had in mind: Dr.Teeth/EM, Eddie and the Cruisers, and Stillwater.
ReplyDeleteFor the rock-and-roll history part, we must induct The Chesterfields and their songwriter Louise, and of course Denise Waverly. (When it comes to stating cases, I will happily be the person to passionately state Ms. Waverly's case.)
On the producer side, I believe there's also a place for Mr. White, who discovered the Oneders and produced such seminal hits as "Mr. Downtown" and "That Thing You Do."
If humanitarian works count like they do with the Academy, I'd suggest Dolores Van Cartier. Certainly not on her music, but what she did for her community and for law enforcement cannot be ignored.
Sadly, the Be-Sharps, Crucifictorius, and California Dreams have neither the necessary longevity nor the professional status, and Hep Alien was narrow and derivative.
Also, The Rutles.
ReplyDeleteIs Spinal Tap real or fictional for the purposes of this list?
ReplyDeleteAnd after reading this list more closely, I guess Marty McFly and the Wyld Stallyns wouldn't be eligible since I don't think they ever made music professionally. But shouldn't McFly deserve a special dispensation for helping invent Chuck Berry's new sound?
And I'll throw in a vote for Josie and the Pussycats (I guess the cartoon version would be the only ones that would merit consideration, though I always thought the movie was underrated and had an awesome power pop soundtrack).
And if we induct them, does that mean Neil Diamond can be in both due to his connection to the Monkees? ;)
ReplyDeleteWe have to consider The Way Outs, of course.
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Wyld Stallyns' music transformed an entire society, dude. If that's not professional, what is?
ReplyDeleteThe "is Spinal Tap fictional" is the same question as for the Monkees, and also goes to Mitch and Mickey (arguably the only people in A Mighty Wind that could be at all R&R).
The Main Street Singers - original lineup only.
ReplyDeleteThe B Sharps
ReplyDeleteThe Mosquitos -- Bingo, Bango, Bongo and Irving
If Josie's eligible, then so are Jem & the Holograms and the Misfits.
ReplyDeleteBut not the Folksmen?
ReplyDeleteIf we're going to include Marty, I think we have to loop in Marvin Berry. He made the most important phone call in Rock and Roll history.
ReplyDeleteAlso:
<p><span>Spinal Tap, </span><span><span>Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Blues Brothers, Citizen Dick, Josie and the Pussycats, Jem and the Holograms, Conrad Birdie, The Weird Sisters</span></span>
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</p><p>Depending on how loose we are with nomination criteria, I'd also throw out: <span> Barry Jive and the Uptown Five (soon to be known as Kathleen Turner Overdrive), The Kinky Wizards, The Good Ole Boys, Ferris Bueller, Schroeder</span></p>
I'm still not sure of Gorillaz counts.
ReplyDeleteIf not that, Scarecrow Boat / <span> </span>Mouse Rat / <span> </span>Malice in Chains / <span> </span>Punch Face Champion / <span> </span>Flames for Flames / <span> </span>The Andy Andy Andys / <span> </span>Andy and the D-Bags / <span> </span>Crackfinger / <span> </span>Department of Homeland Obscurity / <span> </span>Fourskin / <span> </span>Puppy Pendulum / <span> </span>Possum Pendulum / <span> </span>Penis Pendulum / <span> </span>Radwagon / <span> </span>Jet Black Pope / <span> </span>Muscle Confusion / <span> </span>Just the Tip / <span> </span>Fiveskin / <span> </span>Threeskin / <span> </span>Angel Snack / <span> </span>Nothing Rhymes With Orange / <span> </span>Everything Rhymes With Orange / <span> </span>Nothing Rhymes with Blorange / <span> </span>Ninja Dick
If we want to include the "punk rockers that hardly ever get inducted, but are nominated" category:
ReplyDeleteThe Carrie Nations (Beyond the Valley of the Dolls)
The Fabulous Stains.
2gether. Who could forget such hits as "U + Me = Us (Calculus)" and "The Hardest Part of Breaking Up (Is Getting Back Your Stuff)"?
ReplyDeleteAlso, The Archies. Not the studio band that put out "Sugar Sugar," but the actual band from the comic books.
"<span>We're no longer called Sonic Death Monkey. We're on the verge of becoming Kathleen Turner Overdrive, but just for tonight, we are Barry Jive and his Uptown Five."</span>
ReplyDeleteI just watched "The Commitments" for the first time this year, and while the movie didn't knock my socks off, the music was pretty darn good.
ReplyDeleteI've not seen it, but "The Five Heartbeats" was a trending topic on Twitter yesterday.
And I guess she's more folk than rock and kind of a one-hit wonder, but give it up for Phobe Buffay.
Dingoes Ate My Baby
Jem??! Why, that's a truly outrageous suggestion!
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna second the nomination for Jake and Elwood, Matt Guitar Murphy, et al., but, only upon the condition that we get to preapprove who sings the Belushi part at the induction ceremony.
ReplyDeleteI'm also nominating Meatloaf. He must be fictional right. All that wolf biting your throat stuff.
What's the name of the band in Yo Gabba Gabba which performed "We Love To Rock, Yeah"?
ReplyDeleteThe Spanic Boys???
ReplyDelete<span>Does Pete & Pete's Polaris count?</span>
ReplyDeleteWe have gone this far without the Zack Attack being mentioned? For shame! For shame!
ReplyDeleteI think I meant to imply that it shouldn't be Goodman but I don't know if I really think that.
ReplyDeleteBleeding Gums Murphy (think of how many fictional rock bands stole their licks from this cat).
ReplyDeleteSoggy Bottom Boys.
Johnny Fontaine
ReplyDeleteDerek Stevens
The Soggy Bottom Boys<span> </span>
I came in to recommend the Commitments, but want to second Dingos Ate My Baby and Pete & Pete's Polaris.
ReplyDeleteWhat about The Wonders (or, the Oneders...the more classic spelling) from That Thing You Do? Again, concerned about the one-hitted-ness.
Dammit, the nomination of these one hit wonders has to stop or else, I'm going to nominate Tony and the Togas or Juan Cougar.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DzfPcSysAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDqrW85RECE
Spinal Tap is an easier call than the Monkees. In a sense, the Monkees were a real band that starred in a fictionalized account of their life, but they didn't (as far as I recall) use a fictionalized backstory and they made real music that was as serious as the members of the band. Spinal Tap was a fake band populated by actors known principally for other things; to the extent they made actual music, it was part of the ruse and parodic.
ReplyDeleteHow many times can I like this? So looking forward to next month.
ReplyDeleteDamn, Dingos is a good call.
ReplyDeleteCan't believe you left out I Can't Go On (I'll Go On).
ReplyDeleteJohnny Fontaine? If he was the hologram from DS9, then I'm in total agreement. Was in a lot more episodes than the one-hit wonders we've been talking of above.
ReplyDeleteWait, Polaris wasn't real? I loved the Pete & Pete music and one of the first things I did when I discovered teh internets {sic} was to hunt up some sort of soundtrack album or a CD from Polaris.
ReplyDeleteSince we were talking about RomComs in the other thread, I'll say that if my life were a RomCom, hunting down and giving me this soundtrack would be The Moment When We Realize He Is the Right Guy for Our Heroine.
And The Bugaloos.
ReplyDeleteI can't either! Because I'm an effin' evangelical when it comes to that movie. I HEART BANDSLAM 4EVA.
ReplyDeleteAfter "Smelly Cat" got used in a cat litter commercial, she'll never get inducted. Total sell-out, man.
ReplyDeleteOK, I admit I had to go to Wikipedia to actually find the band name, but I'll throw out Paran Maum, from the Japanese movie Linda Linda Linda. Mainly because I finally have an excuse to link to this (major earworm warning, IMO): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQQUEicr6d8 (It takes about a minute or so before the song actually starts.)
ReplyDeleteThat was me.
ReplyDeleteLove Handel
ReplyDeleteJohnny Bravo
And the Canadian wing will never be complete without Robin Sparkles.
Yesyesyes
ReplyDeleteSo, I'm guessing the Electrocutes don't count because they were really just The Donnas?
ReplyDeleteI was so going to list California Dreams!!
ReplyDeleteSeriously, people, we're getting pretty far afield from the "Professional" part of the requirements.
ReplyDeleteI believe they were real.<span> </span>
ReplyDeleteCONRAD BIRDIE!! *Shrieks* *Faints*
ReplyDeleteAre we limited to Earth? No? Okay then.
ReplyDeleteDisaster Area.
--bd
The MAx Rebo Band (original release version only, not the special edition)
ReplyDeleteFigrin D'An and the Modal Nodes (that name is evidence of the essential flaws in the Star Wars Expanded Universe concept).
Creation, of course. Or was it Mission Control? "This is Mission Control, requesting permission to rock out!"
ReplyDeleteSame ruling on The Heights?
ReplyDeleteNo, the one with the olive oil voice and guinea charm who wanted in on Jack Woltz's movie.
ReplyDeleteSCHOOL OF ROCK! SCHOOL OF ROCK! SCHOOL OF ROCK!
ReplyDeleteAlso--Deloris van Cartier, along with the St. Catherine's choir, the St. Francis Academy choir, and The Ronelles.
I declare this the definitive comment of the thread.
Also in the "Muppet" category, there is Placido Flamingo, if opera can be included.
ReplyDeleteAnd if cover bands can be included (which I assume they're not, but hey), Scrantonicity 2, NOT SCRANTONICITY.
Concerning the Monkees, I'll recommend the following Dr. Frank (from the Mr T Experience and author of King Dork) post on Monkees derangement syndrome. quick cut:
ReplyDeleteThey may not have been Dylan or the Beatles, but their records hold up quite well compared to those of everyone else who wasn't Dylan or the Beatles, and even compared to some of the ones recorded by people who actually were Dylan and the Beatles. Everyone can't be D. and the Bs. Not being Dylan or the Beatles is a category that encompasses the entire population of the world, other than five people. If you're going to judge pop music that way, you're going to have to rule out a lot of great stuff. I mean, do it if you want, but it's your loss.
Also, Duke Silver.
ReplyDeleteI shudder to think of how many real artists' albums were outsold by the Squeakquel soundtrack.
ReplyDeleteCHEAP GIRLS, the band in The Money Pit who wanted to be called Meryl Streep.
ReplyDeleteSCHOOL OF ROCK
Ohhhhhh, right. Well then, I'm nominating Vic Fontaine.
ReplyDeleteI may open up an amateur wing. My fear was that we get nominations like Lili Taylor's character from Say Anything, but the thought of leaving Mouse Rat out is kind of killing me.
ReplyDeleteWhy not? Eddie and the Cruisers was just John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band, except with a fake backstory.
ReplyDeleteWikipedia is cheating.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe nobody has mentioned the Star Wars Cantina Band. My guess is that more people can sing their top hit than any song by any legitimately fictional band here.
ReplyDeleteI did--they are apparently properly known as "<span>Figrin D'An and the Modal Nodes</span>." (I wanted to make sure that I had the correct info, so punched Mos Eisley Cantina Band into Wiki to make sure.)
ReplyDelete"Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story" should have been a MUCH bigger hit than it was.
ReplyDeleteWho calls them "Figrin D'An and the Modal Nodes"? That's like referring to the White Album as "The Beatles."
ReplyDeleteThere is a hockey team in my league called Billy and the Boingers, so thank you for letting me know what the reference is.
ReplyDeleteThe Sultans of Swing? Sorry, but it ain't what they call rock and roll.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on Denise Waverly.
ReplyDeleteThe Brady Kids?
ReplyDeletei have a soft spot in my heart for 2gether. jerry o'keefe went to my high school and was our theater star. all us backstage girls had super crushes on him.
ReplyDeleteSorry if it was unclear - but when I said I was kidding, I meant it. They may have been a manufactured image with no philosophies when they started out, but at some point they became a band. I think it's clear that they fail (b) - if you're fictional because you have a freakishly fake media image, a lot of bands are fake. If you're fictional because you didn't organically become a band but were packaged for money then you should be deemed fictional because you didn't organically split up but continued touring packaged for money, and I'm looking at you, fictional Rolling Stones.
ReplyDeleteDude! Love Handel and Robin Sparkles both have proud places on my iPod. Excellent suggestions.
ReplyDeleteWould we induct just McFly, or the Pinheads? For all we know, they became big stars. Marty's future hasn't been written yet.
ReplyDeleteSo not rock and roll. But "Memories of Now" is still the only jazz album the w likes.
ReplyDeleteI cannot be the only one here that purchased the Bloom County compilation which contained a BatB single.
ReplyDeleteThe Happy Wanderers
ReplyDeleteBig Fun was my first thought too, but yeah, one-hit wonder. It didn't stop the Starland Vocal Band from getting the Best New Artist Grammy--hell, think of Milli Vanilli--but RRHOF? Probably not.
ReplyDeleteJohnny Bravo?
ReplyDeleteThe Silver Platters
ReplyDeleteDirk "Feel, Feel, Feel, Feel My Heat" Diggler
ReplyDeleteSamberg/Timberlake Boy Band "Dick in a Box" and "Motherlover"
ReplyDeleteNot sure if their "band" had a name.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/digital-shorts/videos/51523.shtml
ReplyDeleteThe Glorious Steinems on 90210.2 featuring "Adrianna Tate-Duncan" who broke out as a solo artist. But stole "Javier's" song book after he was killed in a car accident. Oy!
ReplyDeleteOh, and David Silver from the original 90210.
The California Raisins (thanks to Mindy Kalings twitter feed)
ReplyDeleteMan I love this blog.
ReplyDeleteGuys, it's 2ge+her.
ReplyDeleteI think that's fair for an imaginary Fictional Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am amused that in this instance - and only this instance - you're a big-hall guy.
ReplyDeleteAdam, you're not the only one. Billy and the Boingers is one I should have thought of, and I think they need to be inaugural inductees.
ReplyDeleteYou gotta keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, keepon, kee-
ReplyDeleteSorry, I just never know when to take the needle off the stuck record.
thanks for that
ReplyDeleteHong Kong Cavaliers for sure
ReplyDeleteI'm for Denise too. And Jay Phillips.
ReplyDeleteA few that we may have missed:
ReplyDeleteShorty Black, from Hustle & Flow
CB4, from CB4
Olaf Metalface (from "Fuck You Yankee Blue Jeans, or something", in Clerks)
The Diva, from 5th Element
The mult-mouthed vocal duo (trio?) from the insect casino in the second episode of the original Battlestar
Galactica. Am I the only one who remembers that? Did I imagine it? Because if I did I imagined I had trading cards and everything!
Tucker Crowe! Although I preferred his work before he found inner peace.
ReplyDeleteJack Rollins. Jude Quinn.
And then there's Brian Slade and Kurt Wilde.
ReplyDeleteI was going to say Tucker Crowe, then I wanted someone else to say it. So thanks, Other Kate.
ReplyDeleteCasey: Can I just say one more thing about the Starland Vocal Band?
ReplyDeleteDan: Sure.
Casey: 1978, they win the Grammy for Best New Artist. You know who they beat? Elvis Costello. Now is it your belief that Elvis Costello isn't cool?
Dan: No, it's my belief that the Grammy voters aren't cool.
Ooh! I see your CB4 and raise it to Niggaz With Hats.
ReplyDeleteAnother Canadian must-have - Hard Core Logo:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUCTmHuDer4
And let me add another 70s era Brit band, the Bang Bang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQqnHKdeBCs
Larry Underwood -- "Baby Can You Dig Your Man?"
ReplyDeleteI assume "Ted Striker's Polka Hits" is not making the cut.
ReplyDeleteZiggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars
ReplyDeleteBennie and The Jets
ReplyDeletePartridge Family
ReplyDeleteMan, nobody could croon while salving the souls of war-torn and love-struck Starfleet officers like that guy.
ReplyDeleteNo, you cannot and are not.
ReplyDeleteI'd say no to the Monkees. Pinpointing the moment they became real is the work of a late night stoner session, but definitely by the time they did Head.
ReplyDeleteI see your Spinal Tap and raise you The Thamesmen.
ReplyDeleteThirding you on Denise Waverly. God, I loved that movie. I keep looking for Ileana Douglas every time I walk past the Brill Building.
ReplyDeleteI see your NWH and raise you Three Times One Minus One.
ReplyDeleteYES to the Diva! I looooove that scene
ReplyDeleteHedwig and the Angry Inch, but they're likely to be overlooked for that poseur, Tommy Gnossis.
ReplyDeleteIf not Sex Bob-Omb, then DEFINITELY The Clash at Demonhead. I used that song for my wake-up alarm for months.
ReplyDeleteReally? 122 posts in, and no one has mentioned the Heights. Really? The Heights! Remember those guys? "We've got to find some common ground! Our love's become a battle ground!"
ReplyDeleteIs this the fastest we've ever hit 100 comments?
ReplyDeleteI think Adam referenced them in a comment on an earlier comment.
ReplyDeleteWhat was that fake Late Show boy band? Fresh Step?
ReplyDeleteI thought the Monkees were two musicians and two actors cast for the parts (this is from fuzzy memory, not google, so correct me if I'm wrong). To my mind, that does not make a "real band" and I'm pretty sure there was fictionalized back story in there too.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that they operated on two tracks that ended up fusing: fake band on show and real band on albums ended up becoming real band that -- cute backstory! -- was created on fake show.
The Glee Club of 6-Bee
ReplyDeleteNo love for Randy Watson and Sexual Chocolate??? They play so fine, don't you agree?*
ReplyDelete*and yes, I realize that a wedding reception/black awareness rally band probably only barely meets the requirement of (a) playing professionally.
Johnny Bravo
ReplyDeleteSexual Chocolate
The band that sang "Suicide-dont do it"?
ReplyDeleteBees Attack Victor MAture
Leather and the Suedes
The Groovie Ghoulies
ReplyDeleteThe first one would be Big Fun, previously mentioned. And, hey, they had a real-world cover by Unrest.
ReplyDeleteEllen Aim and the Attackers
ReplyDelete(anyone feel me on that? Or am I the only one with that particular guilty pleasure?)