I'll fully admit that I don't know much about Santo's career. He retired before I was born and he is not one of the guys who is generally included in dicussions of the best players of all time or even the best of the 1960s. But, based solely on his baseball reference page, I don't really see the case for Hall of Fame. It appears he retired rather than go into a decline period that would have padded counting stats, but aside from 1964, 1966 and 1967 his season stats were largely unremarkable. None of his most similar batters is in the Hall. What am I missing?
That he played third base (woefully underrepresented in the HOF) during a pitcher's era. Don't just look at the counting stats; look at OPS+ and the defensive statistics.
It's really Finley's motivational speaking career, which followed his illustrious tenure as NSA Deputy Assistant Intelligence Director, that's really the interesting thing about him.
Buzzie Bavasi may have an argument on the merits of his own work, but siring Bill Bavasi surely rolls much of that back.
ReplyDeleteI'll fully admit that I don't know much about Santo's career. He retired before I was born and he is not one of the guys who is generally included in dicussions of the best players of all time or even the best of the 1960s. But, based solely on his baseball reference page, I don't really see the case for Hall of Fame. It appears he retired rather than go into a decline period that would have padded counting stats, but aside from 1964, 1966 and 1967 his season stats were largely unremarkable. None of his most similar batters is in the Hall. What am I missing?
ReplyDeleteThat he played third base (woefully underrepresented in the HOF) during a pitcher's era. Don't just look at the counting stats; look at OPS+ and the defensive statistics.
ReplyDeleteGil Hodges all the way.
ReplyDelete<span>2011 was arguably a down year for the position, but the best 3B had a 6.1 fWAR in 2011. Santo had 6.1 in 1972, and seven other seasons that were even better.
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my thoughts exactly.
ReplyDeleteDo any of these guys really deserve to be in before Rush?
ReplyDeleteHodges, Kaat, Santo. No science behind this whatsoever. I assume Charley Finley is being considered for amusement value.
ReplyDeleteIt's really Finley's motivational speaking career, which followed his illustrious tenure as NSA Deputy Assistant Intelligence Director, that's really the interesting thing about him.
ReplyDeleteDid you ever read "Soul of Baseball" about Buck O'Neil? I've never cried so hard over a book as I did in the HOF voting portion of that book....
ReplyDeleteIsn't Dick Allen more deserving of consideration for this ballot that, say, Ken Boyer?<span> </span>
ReplyDeleteRon Santo is white?
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