Wednesday, June 1, 2011

THE FIVE-TIMERS CLUB: What's it all like? Guest commentator Samir Patel, one of our favorites on the blog, explains:
The first year was really an eye-opening experience for me. I'd won the North South National Spelling Bee two years before at age 7, but competition there was nothing compared to Scripps. After making it through the Star-Telegram Regional bee to Scripps, I wasn't really expecting to do all that well -- after all, it was my first year, and I didn't think I stood a chance against older kids who'd been preparing much more seriously for a far longer time.

Well, obviously, I came in 3rd, which was a lot better than I expected. I was slightly disappointed at first, because as the competition had gone on and it was down to the final few, I thought I had a chance to win it -- and of course, as often happens, I knew every word except the one I missed [boudin]. That first year made me determined to study even more to do better the next year, y'know? I wanted that success again.

But after a few years, especially during the very last year, I started experiencing the burnout effect. Each year I'd been studying harder, but I'd gotten mixed results... again, luck of the draw. Looking back, I think some of the most important lessons learned from the Bee were persistence even in the face of obstacles and being able to accept that circumstances won't always be in your control.
As for what he's doing now:
I'm 17 now. I just graduated from high school as well as from North Lake College, a community college near Dallas, with an associate's degree in science. I'm attending UT Dallas in the fall for a bachelor's of science in biochemistry, minoring in business. My educational goals include a PhD in Chemical Engineering as well as an MBA.
Now I am... a Citizen on Patrol [police volunteer] for the City of Colleyville. A Clark Scholar [40hr/week summer research program] at UT-Dallas. Student Assistant for developmental math courses at North Lake College. 
I believe that a lot of the linguistic skills as well as the work ethic I developed in the spelling bee enabled me to succeed in college coursework that I took for dual credit starting in fall 2007 [a few months after my last spelling bee, when I started my freshman year of high school at 13.] The media frenzy around the bee also taught me a lot of lessons about losing gracefully, facing your mistakes, and the art of communicating with broad audiences. On a lighter note, some of the prize money from the Bee went towards my first car.
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After the spelling bee was over, I've had time to work on a lot of other hobbies and extracurricular activities. NSB preparation, at least the way I did it, doesn't leave a whole lot of time for other things. Some of my activities have been spelling-related -- I wrote for the North Lake News-Register [the college newspaper] for three years, and I'm pretty sure I was the only person never to make a typo. I was an officer in two different college honor societies -- Phi Theta Kappa and Mu Alpha Theta -- which allowed me to meet some great people and develop a lot of leadership skills. I was a high school debater for several years. I also write creatively... one of my short stories is being published this summer in Duck Soup, the college's literary magazine. I'm working on several novels. I also like playing guitar and songwriting. I like the Halo series of video games a lot, and I still occasionally play Roller Coaster Tycoon [old-school, I know]. I've become relatively handy with consumer electronics -- one of my friends taught me how to replace computer hardware and install/solder guitar pickups. I tutor students for various college and high school classes as well as the SAT and ACT [funny story: during high school, I was interviewed, trained, and hired by North Lake as well as a private SAT prep company as a tutor, but was released when HR found out I was 15/16.]

The only reason I'm saying all this -- for any kids who are in the spelling bee now -- trust me, win or lose, life goes on after the spelling bee. So many people told me that, but I didn't believe them. Well, they were right. The spelling bee opened up a lot of doors for me and prepared me for a lot of life experiences, but all that time you spent on studying spelling can now be used for other things. Years later, when you look back at the spelling bee, you'll remember all the friends you made, not where you placed which year. So enjoy yourselves! It's a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

29 comments:

  1. I'm a five timer myself, and I have to agree with Samir...all of the skills I learned from the Spelling Bee have helped me so much since I stopped spelling -- I've learned to keep working on things, even when they seem impossible.  I've learned what it means to dedicate myself wholly to a cause.   And Samir -- great commentary!! lol

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  2. Anonymous12:10 PM

    We've got Samir AND Tia? Hi guys!

    This is going to be the best coverage EVER! And I've been following since the beginning!

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  3. Christy in Philly12:10 PM

    Oops, guest was me!

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  4. BeeFan12:14 PM

    Nupur Lala (1999 winner) was here yesterday too.

    Better watch our spelling, folks!

    :-)

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  5. Maggie12:15 PM

    Younger people like this make me a whole lot less freaked out about the future...

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  6. Gleemonex12:20 PM

    Samir! Rockstar! I represented the FW Star-Telegram back in '88 -- and I wrote about you once! http://damnkidsgetoffmylawn.blogspot.com/2007/05/do-chickens-have-large-talons.html I love hearing what you're up to now. Thanks for the update.

    God, the Bee -- it makes me crazy, and I can't let it alone. Long live the Bee!

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  7. Welcome aboard, Tia.  (I'm blaming JJ Goldstein for the influx until proven otherwise).  As with Samir, our door is wide open this week for anything you want to discuss regarding your experience with the Bee and what's come thereafter -- shoot me an email at acbonin (at) hotmail dot com if interested.  Or just feel free to hang out in the comments.

    One thing I'm particularly interested in from the veterans is this: they've changed the format a few times over the past decade. From a competitor's standpoint and from a fairness perspective, how should the Bee work?  Is the written test leading to a "cut of 50" fair enough?

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  8. BeeFan12:28 PM

    Good question.  I seem to remember that Tia's regional "bee" was a written test, or am I mis-remembering?

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  9. isaac_spaceman12:28 PM

    Tia -- you were my favorite speller.  So glad you're here.

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  10. Adam C.12:29 PM

    Seriously, what an embarassment of riches!  Thanks to Samir, Tia, and Nupur, as well as other the other former spellers and parents of spellers who have joined the fun, and thanks in advance of their anticipated participation to Raf, Cat, and of course Shonda.  It's LITERALLY (/Chris Traeger) one of my favorite times of year here at ALOTT5MA.

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  11. Samir, thanks for this great post, and for joining us this year!  I love hearing from those of you who have been through the Bee.  And it's great to hear that you're doing so well.

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  12. Charles12:36 PM

    While I think the written test and cut of 50 dilute the experience a bit, I think the format change became a necessity due to the number of spellers--and due to the fact that the contestants are so darn good. When I was in the Bee and worked on the Bee staff, the competitions would routinely last past 5:00 p.m. on the second day (and sometimes the first), so you can imagine how long things might go with the spellers who are in it now.

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  13. I'm okay with there being a written test and some kind of cut-off.  Beyond the efficiency, the truth is that 274 kids are going to have to be eliminated to produce a winner, and it's not necessary to do that to each of them publicly, especially the ones for whom just being there was the real victory.  And a written test does make things fairer -- less "luck of the draw" if you're all receiving the same words.  

    The question is whether 50 is too low, both in terms of how many kids "deserve" a shot to win it, and in terms of the competition it yields on Thursday -- which, IIRC, becomes a bloodbath.  We'll see.

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  14. Nupur1:28 PM

    Having met these two in person, I just have to chime in with how much Tia and Samir rock. I draw upon their examples of perseverance, optimism and resilience when I'm in short supply. As for joining the crew here, what can I say? I've read the blog for the last few years and have not found a more informed, kind, supportive and downright intelligent crowd of bee fans anywhere. You add to this experience just as much for former spellers as we hope we add for you. Thanks so much!

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  15. Samir1:48 PM

    Nupur, you forgot about my one-liners!

    "The spelling bee is to academic competitions what South Park is to cartoons -- the only one that's both educational AND fun to watch."

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  16. isaac_spaceman1:53 PM

    You're obviously too young for Donald Duck in Mathemagicland. 

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  17. What about Animaniacs?

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  18. BeeFan2:02 PM

    He's right, though.  I've watched the Geography Bee and Mathcounts and they just aren't the same.  I follow the IMO (where Evan O'Dorney went on to rock after winning the Bee) via the web but it would make horrible television.

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  19. Samir2:04 PM

    By the way, Adam, I posted a link to your blog on Facebook and tagged Erik Zyman-Carrasco, Jesse Zymet, Catherine Miller, and some others.  Hopefully they'll swing by too.

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  20. Sarah2:04 PM

    Awesome, Tia. You were my favorite speller back then. We basically watched you and Samir grow up on TV. :)

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  21. Samir2:05 PM

    Thanks Nupur.  I know for sure that you were a source of inspiration for me, as well as a lot of other spelling bee kids.  You were one of the best alumni bee guide people. 

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  22. Sarah2:15 PM

    Nupur, were you ever on the Bee staff? If so, which years, and what was it like?

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  23. Samir2:15 PM

    I did MathCounts in middle school as well as the NSB and actually did pretty well -- I won the D/FW regional competition in 8th grade and made it to State.  But then I really didn't study because I was focused on spelling, so I ended up placing like 70th out of 200.  I've participated in other math competitions since then [I made it to the AIME once or twice and I've won the AMATYC math contest at North Lake for three years in a row] but none of them would be televisable [if that's not a word, I don't care].  The same inherent 'unfairness' in the spelling bee -- luck of the draw -- is what creates the drama.  Plus, watching kids do algebra is really sort of boring compared to watching them spell words longer than they are tall.

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  24. Sarah2:20 PM

    <span>Evan O'Dorney is quite literally a genius. He also won the Intel Science Talent Search this year, which is extremely prestigious. (replying to BeeFan)</span>

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  25. Justin Banda2:21 PM

    Great interview. I was a former speller in the 2006 Bee, but I was eliminated in the third round, so I don't have the name-recognition of Samir. The funniest thing about the Bee is that, like Samir says, life goes on afterwards, and you never know when or where you'll find someone who was part of the Bee. I began participating in NCFCA speech and debate the year after the Bee, and made a ton of new friends. A year later, my former debate partner moved to Texas, where she continued debating... and guess who her new partner was? Samir! (He was actually the one who pointed me to this article on Facebook.)

    We reconnected after that and although we share more experiences common to debate than the Bee itself, the Bee worked as a catalyst for future connections. I'll never forget what I learned at the Bee; not so much about spelling, but about people who place an emphasis on education before athletics. I'm now an 18 year old high school graduate (just graduated last week), with plans to go to Judson University in Elgin to study Architecture. I'm writing a novel on the side for fun, and we'll see whether or not I'll ever get it published. For a while back in high school, I tutored local elementary school kids at the library in English, which I doubt I would have had the courage to go through with had I not done the bee. 

    I guess this all goes to back up Samir's point that life goes on, even if you lose. I never went back to the Bee (I was an eighth grader), but I learned more from the experience as a whole than I think i would have from winning. I'm so grateful to Scripps-Howard for sponsoring this wonderful opportunity. I just wish more kids would participate.

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  26. Nupur5:11 PM

    I was on it for 2003 and 2004. They stopped doing the Bee staff due to budget cuts but it was a lot of fun. 

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  27. Nupur5:12 PM

    Samir, i think you have too many to count. I, for one, actually remember hearing in my head "Is it just me or am I getting all the French words?" while taking the GRE. ;)

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  28. beemused12:27 AM

    Thanks for all of the inspiring stories! You can't believe how inspiring you all were to my son. I will never forget the first time my 6 yr old ( at the time) was sitting in rapt attention two feet from the television watching the Bee. He thought Dr. Bailly was the smartest person in the world. He carefully wrote down each speller's name and their words. He followed each speller's story and cheered them on (including you-Samir!) He turned to me and said, "Someday i going to be there". I thought it was very cute, but little did I know he would actually do it, not once, but twice, and in his final year he became a championship finalist!
    Hearing your stories through Spellbound(Nupur!) and re-reading American Bee over and over made such an impact to a little kid who loved words. I am so grateful for your life- after- the- Bee stories. It becomes such a big part of one's life that after it is over it is important to remember the best is yet to come!

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  29. beemused8:34 AM

    Sorry for the typo... he said "Someday I'm <span>going...". Up too late!</span>

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