BARBARIANS AT THE GATES: Don't have much time today, so I'll just say "leave it to the Lannisters to behave in a way that makes it look like Tywin is in the good half of the family."
MIA: Theon/Balon/Yara, Bran, Cersei, Jon & the Rangers.
Episodes since Rickon Stark sighting: 3?
GoT is a dark show, and this was as dark an episode as they go (looking your way rat bucket), but it had a surprising amount of humor. It opens on a fart joke, we got the usual Tyron & Bronn show, and Renly got off maybe the funniest line the series has ever done (or as close as I can remember it):
ReplyDeleteCrazy Fire Witch: You should bow before your brother, he is the chosen one, born of salt and smoke.
Renly: Born of salt and smoke? Is he a ham?
That's from the books. Though I think Tyrion is routinely funnier. "Bronn, if Ser Meryn speaks again, kill him. [beat] That is a threat."
ReplyDeleteAgree on both being funny, but I thought Bronn had the line of the night: "There's no cure for being a cunt."
ReplyDeleteI agree that Tyrion is the funnier character. Maybe it's just that I expect it from him and not Renly. But that was the first time I found myself laughing out loud to the show.
ReplyDeleteLannister Loathsomeness Listing, from least to most (show only):
ReplyDelete1. Tommen
2. Myrcella
3. Tyrion
4. "Alton"
5. Lancel
6. Jamie
7. Cersei
8. Kevan
9. Tywin
10. Joffrey
Tywin's got a lot of work to do to get into the top half.
For this episode, though, it would go 1. Tyrion. 2. Tywin. 3. Lancel. 4. Joffrey. NA: Tommen, Myrcella, Alton, Jamie, Cersei, Kevan.
ReplyDeleteFor all episodes strictly <span>up to this point in the show</span>, and taking both the good and the bad, I think it should go:
1. Tyrion (the only one to show adult compassion, maturity and intelligence)
2. Alton (if I remember right, he's the messenger; didn't do anything)
3(t) Tommen & Myrcella (just kids, but were jerks to Sansa about her dad and brother)
5. Kevan (what did he do? just being on one side in the war isn't bad enough; can't remember anything else)
Large gap
6. Lancel (helped murder Robert; sleeping with cousin; mean to Tyrion; petulant and entitled)
7. Cersei (incest; helped murder Robert, also petulant and entitled, but more incompetent than tyrannical)
8. Jaime (incest; actually murdered king he was sworn to protect)
9. Tywin (only because of the way he treated Tyrion and people around Tyrion)
10. Joffrey
Kevan Lannister is one of the chief lieutenants of a military campaign that has relied heavily upon mass murder, rape and torture. If the Lannisters were put before a war crimes tribunal, Kevan would probably be hanged alongside Tywin.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the show as depicted Kevan as having any role in that strategy. not that it has depicted him as not having that strategy, but still.
ReplyDeleteWho the hell is Kevan? I cannot keep these people straight.
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ReplyDeleteIt is interesting though that the Kevan in the Dance of Dragons book is far more sympathetic than I remember. Though perhaps it is because he is murdered after managing a reconciliation which was long overdue.
I just want to say if I'm going to be a bagman to deliver my boss' mistress to a cave so she can spawn a shadowdemonbaby to go and do you know what to you know who and I'm told by my boss that I can't even bring this shit up to him later, when I make a passing reference to the fact that my boss already cut off my fingers for saving his sorry ass, I don't want my grammar corrected. Even if my boss is right.
ReplyDeleteNo. Especially if he's right.
Kevan is Tywin's brother, Lancel's father and Tyrion's uncle. We saw him in season 1 when Tyrion arrived at Tywin's camp.
ReplyDeleteSo true - it reminded me so much of Stringer Bell.
ReplyDeleteAll I could think of during that scene was if Stannis cut off Davos's fingers for being a smuggler, what should Davos get to cut off of Stannis for impregnating Melissandra with a demon/dementor/smoke monster? (Dementor/Smoke Monster credit goes to Nina at Vulture: http://www.vulture.com/2012/04/game-of-thrones-recap-garden-of-bones.html)
ReplyDeleteI think that even if we consider Kevan's actions up through Book 5, he isn't anywhere near Tywin and Joffrey on the scale of Lannister-bad.
ReplyDeleteI'm kind of with Stannis there -- everybody could stand to learn the difference between few and less. Stannis, remember, is an inveterate editor. He's a dick, but he takes pride in the Common Tongue.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
ReplyDeleteYeah, my thought was that at that moment, I was about ready to call my banners for Stannis. "You shall take our lives, but you shall never take our grammar!"
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